By mustang6560 on 8/10/11
Reviewed by Nathan J. Trifone, oobgolf contributor
10.0 - 9.5 Would Help Tiger
9.4 - 8.5 Awesome
8.4 - 7.5 Very good
7.4 - 6.5 Above Average
6.4 - 4.5 Solid
4.4 - 3.5 Below Average
3.4 - 2.5 Save Your Money
2.4 - 0.0 Pay NOT to own
Titleist has Bob Vokey. SCORGolf has Terry “The Wedge Guy” Koehler.
Terry has over 30 years of experience in the golf industry and developed a strong reputation as an expert club maker as president of Eidolon Golf, maker of the patented V-Sole wedge. After the USGA and R&A changed the rule involving the "old" grooves, Terry realized applying the new grooves to old wedge technology would not create the high performance scoring clubs he built his reputation on so he decided to start SCORGolf.
The whole concept of SCORGolf is to create a new category called "scoring clubs" and the first generation is SCOR4161. The idea is to blur the distinction between your wedges (which are designed to help you score) and your short irons (9-iron, Pitching wedge) so all of your "scoring clubs" match. Modern equipment manufacturers design and build a set of irons around the 6-iron and Terry fundamentally disagrees with this practice.With SCOR4161, each scoring club is individually designed to optimize trajectory, spin and distance control, which should help you score.
Why are 9-irons and pitching wedges designed to perform like 6-irons? Short irons and wedges can only be optimized for scoring shots if they are designed from scratch to do just that. SCOR4161 erases the divide between short irons and wedges.Terry sent Andrew and I each a set of five SCOR4161 clubs (9-iron, Pitching wedge, Gap wedge, Sand wedge and Lop wedge) to match the lofts our current clubs.
I’ve got to hand it to Terry, he knows how to make a sexy looking golf club. From the polished chrome finish to the red and black light cord grip, SCOR4161 has a classic yet distinctive look that rivals the best looking clubs on the market. SCOR4161 features the new Condition of Competition grooves so it conforms to the ruling outlined by the USGA and R&A.
To build SCOR4161, Terry developed a new tooling process called Tru-Form-Forged, which combines the best elements of both casting and forging. SCOR4161 is the first club to be made using this method. The face and grooves are carefully milled using a CNC-mill to ensure the face is perfectly flat and each groove is precisely cut out. The result is a clubhead that offers the precision of casting and the feel of forging.
Like the V-Sole wedge, SCOR4161 features the patented V-Sole Technology, which provides two degrees of bounce so you can handle any lie on the course. I hope a "raw" series will be coming next. I love the chrome, but I love the option of the brown rusty look too!
From the moment I caught my first ball off the sweet spot of SCOR4161 I could feel the Tru-Form-Forged tooling process in action. The feeling you get at impact when you hit the sweet spot sends a combination of pleasure and satisfaction that pulsates from your fingertips, up to your head and down to your toes. I can honestly I've never felt a sweet spot so sweet.
One of the best features of SCOR4161 is the SGC3 Innovative Weight Distribution, which progressively moves weight (and center of gravity) up on the club face as loft decreases to optimize trajectory, spin and distance control. I still hit the occasional "what the heck was that" shot, but with SCOR4161 my dispersion rate for each club improved dramatically. As one exercise, I took the 50 degree wedge to the practice green to hit a bucket of balls to warm up and then I hit 10 balls to see how consistent I was. Out of the 10 balls I hit, all were within a five yard radius of each other and six of them were within a three yard radius.
I do want to point out that the SCOR4161 is a blade style wedge, so if you're accustomed to a game-improvement club with a large sole, then it could take some time to adjust to the feel of a blade. I'm not a great player, but I play forged irons so I didn't have any difficulty adjusting. Terry would argue mid- to high- handicaps are better prepared to hit a blade than the golf industry lets on. Another thing worth mentioning is if you're still playing with the "old" grooves, you'll probably notice a difference with the "new" grooves. Andrew noticed a pretty significant difference in the spin of his old Eidolon V-Sole (old grooves) and the new SCOR4161 (new grooves).
If you are serious about getting better, then you owe it to yourself to try the new SCOR4161. I give SCOR4161 a 9.0. The only reason Tiger Woods doesn't play SCOR4161 is because he doesn't know about them. And he has a contract with Nike.
Terry is big on the idea of "building" a set of SCOR4161 around the lofts and shafts of your current clubs. The lofts of modern irons varies from company to company, which makes matching your wedges with your irons a difficult task for some golfers. With SCOR4161, every loft from 41 to 61 degrees is available to make sure everyone can match the correct set of SCOR4161 clubs to their long irons. Name another company that offers that.
A single wedge starts at $149. You can also buy a set of three, four and five clubs to replace the 9-iron and Pitching wedge of your current set.
Learn More About SCOR4161 Scoring Clubs
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As a long-time Eidolon owner, I'm sure the new ones are very nice clubs and I will look them over. My wedges always get comments.
But your rating system needs revision - I don't think it takes a 9.5 to help TW right now.
I want those sooo bad! The clubs look really good. Terry is a genius. I think the rating system should be changed to 10.0 - 9.5 Would Help Major Champions or PGA Tour Pro...
They look really nice, and I'm sure the feel of a forged wedge is butter. Personally, I loaded up on some Tom Watson wedges last year with the "old" grooves which I'm good to play with for quite some time. Eventually they'll wear out but probably not for 4 or 5 years if I take care of them. At that time, I'd definitely consider some SCORs (if I don't win some first).
When Terry released the pics, the clubs did look amazing. Glad to hear they're even more visually impressive in person. I think it makes a difference for a lot of folks - having a club that fits your eye does wonders for confidence. I had an old set of Wilson Deep Reds quite some time ago, and I never liked the way that fat shaft and hosel looked and from day one I ever felt comfortable with those sticks. They didn't stay in my bag long.
Best of luck to SCOR and all those who load up on 'em.
@Trav - +1
Also, i like these clubs. I like the look, and i like the fact that terry designed them up. The downside is that i just bought my Eidolon's Last year. Terry how about a trade-in or something. Loyalty program? I mean, that's a lot of dough for wedges, nomatter how good they are. My eidolons are really good. Really really good. I've played the hell out of them and won some unoffical dough with them, but it's tough times and to upgrade now for labelled CC grooves (i know mine will pass a field test, but still) is just too much.
Nathan, how did the scors fill the gap for you? Did the 9 iron fit where a 9 should? I love this concept because I have a big gap between my 9 and my 47. And I 've thought several times about replacing the 47 with a 45 or something to fill that gap but then it just moves the gap down the line. And I wonder about the transition from the 9 iron project x shaft to the kbs wedge shaft may be the problem?
@Backquak- Perfectly. Terry is big on building the correct set to make sure you have a consistent loft difference. My TaylorMade TP MC 9-iron is 42 and P-wedge is 46, so Terry sent a 42, 46, 50, 54 and 58 in the SCOR4161 clubs.
SCOR4161 comes in every degree loft from 41 degrees through 61 degrees so you will be able to match them exactly to your current clubs. Andrew's 9-iron was 43 degrees so Terry matched his SCOR4161 at 43, 47, 51, 55, 59.
@Backquack - i can say from experience that the stepless steel they give you as an option fits very well with the Project X shafts. I play project X 6.5 and i don't notice a difference in playability.
Drool. I so want these, but like others I have Eidolon 48, 52, 56 and 60 wedges now. Still I went through the ScorFit system and it matched up exactly what I needed based on my current clubs. Very nice indeed. Now to find a couple $100 or win!
SCOREGolf's 2010 Top 10 List
1 National Golf Club of Canada - Golf Course Woodbridge ,ON | Tom Fazio | 1975
2 Hamilton Golf and Country Club - West-South Ancaster ,ON | Harry Colt | 1914
3 St. George's Golf and Country Club - Golf Course Etobicoke ,ON | Stanley Thompson | 1928
4 Jasper Park Lodge Golf Course - Golf Course Jasper ,AB | Stanley Thompson | 1925 5 Banff Springs Golf Club - The Thompson Course Banff ,AB | Stanley Thompson | 1928
6 Highlands Links Golf Club - Golf Course Ingonish Beach ,NS | Stanley Thompson | 1939
7 Capilano Golf and Country Club - Golf Course West Vancouver ,BC | Stanley Thompson | 1937
8 Beacon Hall Golf Club - Golf Course Aurora ,ON | Thomas McBroom | 1988
9 Muskoka Bay Club - The Muskoka Bay Golf Course Gravenhurst,ON | Doug Carrick | 2006
10 The Royal Montreal Golf Club - Blue Ile Bizard ,QC | Dick Wilson | 1958
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Torleif Sorenson says:
So Mustang Sally is sold, PLUS they're forged... CNC-milling... ...and when I *have* gotten out to play since 1999, I've been using my ca-1990 Hogan Edge irons, so I'm sure these are better. (Drooling...)
I think I'm pretty well sold, but I'd still like Andrew to weigh in on these clubs.
You are all the biggest bunch of butt-kissers I have ever seen.............
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