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player
Joined: 31 Jan 2009
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 Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:21 pm Post subject: Grip touched grass within the red stakes(not the water) |
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Today I hit a shot into a lateral hazard between the stakes and the water. I mistakenly grounded the end of the golf club(the grip end)in the hazard. Am I in breach of rule 13-2? Edit-rule acually is 13-4
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falcon50driver
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| Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, there is a little known rule 225.345 that states that if you swing the club from the wrong end, there is a 6 stroke penalty 
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player
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| Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:38 am Post subject: |
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see i didn`t swing the club from the wrong end, i accidentally let the grip touch the ground in the hazard
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jev
Joined: 17 Apr 2010
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| Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:55 am Post subject: |
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And now for the real answer 
13-2 talks about "mproving Lie, Area of Intended Stance or Swing, or Line of Play". That has little to do with you touching the ground in a hazard.
Rule 13-4 states your club cannot touch the water or ground except when trying to prevent falling (and marking and measuring etc). It sounds, however, that was not the case (the keywords being "accidentally" and "let it touch the ground").
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Bryan K
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| Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:21 am Post subject: |
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So if my club touches the ground in the hazard because I'd rather take a two-stroke penalty than fall on my face, it's not actually a two-stroke penalty?
Yes, this has happened to me from time to time.
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jev
Joined: 17 Apr 2010
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| Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:50 am Post subject: |
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| Bryan Kautzman wrote: |
| So if my club touches the ground in the hazard because I'd rather take a two-stroke penalty than fall on my face, it's not actually a two-stroke penalty? |
Yes. Just don't misuse it like Michelle Wie tried earlier this year.
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mjaber
Joined: 17 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:00 am Post subject: |
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I voted yes, because I don't believe you did it accidentally.
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falcon50driver
Joined: 22 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 8:49 am Post subject: |
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Do you know what that white stuff in the middle of a pile of chicken poop is?... Why yes, it's chicken poop! The rule says you can't ground your club in a hazard. Both ends of the golf club are still a golf club. It's a golf club from one end to the other.
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Bryan K
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| Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 10:49 am Post subject: |
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I can't say that I've ever seen chicken poop before.
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Armand Eglauer
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| Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Ah, I remember cleaning out the coop while chewing gum. Once, I lost my gum while blowing a bubble but the good news is I thought I found it ..... three times!
Armand
I'm kidding about the gum ... I wish I was kidding about cleaning the coop, but I've been there too many times!
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player
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| Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 9:14 am Post subject: |
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13-4 sorry that`s what i meant
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