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ipv6freely
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 3:11 pm Post subject: Grounds Crew on the Hole |
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So I came across this today, and really was confused about what to do.
The grounds crew were out working on the course today. Cutting the grass and they were putting sand (?) on the greens. Made putting crappy, let me tell you.
My question is.. what do I do in this case? After I stood there long enough they finally got off the green so I could take my turn, but what should be happening? I considered just picking my ball up and moving on to the next hole.
Thanks!
PS- Despite the sand on the greens, it was actually my best round ever. 45 over 9 holes
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Kickntrue
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ipv6freely
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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I was there at 1pm...
Reading your link now...
Edit:
Ah, thanks. I just wasn't sure what the proper way to handle the situation was. Though I have to say.. having clumped up sand on every green was kind of annoying. I almost want my money back, if it weren't for the fact that I shot my best round ever
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Bryan K
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Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 7:42 am Post subject: |
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Story time:
I was on the course earlier this week quite early. On a par four (I think it was hole 2), I shot a tee shot that actually went where I wanted. I aimed for the left side of the fairway because it appeared that with the pin placement on the hole, it would give me a straight shot to the pin that I could roll onto the green. As I approached my ball, the greenskeeper rode past me to the green to cut a new hole. I had to sit and wait for him as he moved the pin directly behind the bunker. Had I known the pin was going to be there, I would have aimed for the right side of the fairway.
Yes, I did complain when I got back to the clubhouse.
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ipv6freely
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Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 8:43 am Post subject: |
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Wow that's crazy... he just couldn't have waited for you to finish the hole. No, that would be FAR too logical!
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Frankie C
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Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 10:05 am Post subject: Private or Public course? |
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If the greenskeeper even attempted to cut a new hole while members were on the tee or in the fairway at a private club it would probably be that greenskeeper's last day on the job.
Frankie C
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Bryan K
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Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 11:34 am Post subject: |
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Well....I don't want to cost anyone his job. I'd just like a little more courtesy.
Truthfully, it probably didn't make a difference. I flubbed that approach shot and the subsequent one, and then I hit it into the sand anyway before blasting it onto the green and two-putting for double bogey. However, I still submit that those two consecutive flubs MIGHT have been a psychological lapse due to having to alter the shot that I had been mentally preparing for as I hiked down the fairway.
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georgelohr
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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They sand the greens to level them. They also do it to teeboxs (although not nearly enough around my area). Works great in the yard at home too.
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Frankie C
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:11 am Post subject: |
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But I'm sure that they don't sand the tees and greens while groups are on the course is the point. Many supers require their workers to shut down mowers and weed whackers when golfers approach as well.
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ipv6freely
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:03 am Post subject: |
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putting was kind of funny on the sand... I should have asked for my money back once I was done... heh
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pikapp23
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This is kind of a fine line. The normal procedure for the work crew is to work around the players - getting out of the way when players are hitting in their direction, turning off equipment and stopping movement. However, on a busy course this makes it very difficult for them to complete their work. I appreciate what they do and try to not hinder their effot anymore than necessary, but I do appreciate it when they stop at least long enough for me to hit, but if they are not in my way I will continue to play even if they are still working (see this often with mowing, where they continue to mow, but not in my intended path (or within a spot I might accidently hit to). I'm sure we do not/would not appreciate not being able to complete our work in a timely manner because we had to constantly keep stopping so that others could do something - like you can't type on the computer when your office mates are on a conference call).
I know a guy who worked on grounds crew at an upscale country club in the area. He said during the week they primarily did maintenance work before club opened for play or in late evening when golfers were gone, but they also had policy that if they saw golfers coming they were to move themselves and equipment into trees/bushes and basically hide until the golfers were gone - the super had told them to make sure the golfers couldn't even tell they were there. Most of the time it wasn't a big deal because course was not really busy, but there were days they would end up on the clock until late at night because they had to keep stopping every 5 minutes.
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ipv6freely
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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This is kind of a fine line. The normal procedure for the work crew is to work around the players - getting out of the way when players are hitting in their direction, turning off equipment and stopping movement. However, on a busy course this makes it very difficult for them to complete their work. I appreciate what they do and try to not hinder their effot anymore than necessary, but I do appreciate it when they stop at least long enough for me to hit, but if they are not in my way I will continue to play even if they are still working (see this often with mowing, where they continue to mow, but not in my intended path (or within a spot I might accidently hit to). I'm sure we do not/would not appreciate not being able to complete our work in a timely manner because we had to constantly keep stopping so that others could do something - like you can't type on the computer when your office mates are on a conference call).
I know a guy who worked on grounds crew at an upscale country club in the area. He said during the week they primarily did maintenance work before club opened for play or in late evening when golfers were gone, but they also had policy that if they saw golfers coming they were to move themselves and equipment into trees/bushes and basically hide until the golfers were gone - the super had told them to make sure the golfers couldn't even tell they were there. Most of the time it wasn't a big deal because course was not really busy, but there were days they would end up on the clock until late at night because they had to keep stopping every 5 minutes. |
While I do appreciate what they do, as far as the late hours at times all I can say is... suck it up. If the hours bother you, there are plenty of other jobs out there Nobody is forcing you to work there!
Anyway, yeah... I dont mind if they continue cutting the grass or whatever, as long as they stop if they are right in my path or like... RIGHT behind me. But the sand on the green was a bit much. It was like putting in a bunker on every single hole.
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Bryan K
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Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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| ipv6freely wrote: |
| pikapp23 wrote: |
This is kind of a fine line. The normal procedure for the work crew is to work around the players - getting out of the way when players are hitting in their direction, turning off equipment and stopping movement. However, on a busy course this makes it very difficult for them to complete their work. I appreciate what they do and try to not hinder their effot anymore than necessary, but I do appreciate it when they stop at least long enough for me to hit, but if they are not in my way I will continue to play even if they are still working (see this often with mowing, where they continue to mow, but not in my intended path (or within a spot I might accidently hit to). I'm sure we do not/would not appreciate not being able to complete our work in a timely manner because we had to constantly keep stopping so that others could do something - like you can't type on the computer when your office mates are on a conference call).
I know a guy who worked on grounds crew at an upscale country club in the area. He said during the week they primarily did maintenance work before club opened for play or in late evening when golfers were gone, but they also had policy that if they saw golfers coming they were to move themselves and equipment into trees/bushes and basically hide until the golfers were gone - the super had told them to make sure the golfers couldn't even tell they were there. Most of the time it wasn't a big deal because course was not really busy, but there were days they would end up on the clock until late at night because they had to keep stopping every 5 minutes. |
While I do appreciate what they do, as far as the late hours at times all I can say is... suck it up. If the hours bother you, there are plenty of other jobs out there Nobody is forcing you to work there!
Anyway, yeah... I dont mind if they continue cutting the grass or whatever, as long as they stop if they are right in my path or like... RIGHT behind me. But the sand on the green was a bit much. It was like putting in a bunker on every single hole.  |
You know....just thought I'd mention that I learned how to golf on a course with sand greens. Yes, the "greens" were actually made of fine sand. When you got to the "green", you got to pick up your ball and smooth the area around the ball and between the ball and the hole. After putting out, you got to smooth out all of the footprints and ball marks on the "green". Such practices easily added an hour to a nine hole round.
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ipv6freely
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Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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| ipv6freely wrote: |
| pikapp23 wrote: |
This is kind of a fine line. The normal procedure for the work crew is to work around the players - getting out of the way when players are hitting in their direction, turning off equipment and stopping movement. However, on a busy course this makes it very difficult for them to complete their work. I appreciate what they do and try to not hinder their effot anymore than necessary, but I do appreciate it when they stop at least long enough for me to hit, but if they are not in my way I will continue to play even if they are still working (see this often with mowing, where they continue to mow, but not in my intended path (or within a spot I might accidently hit to). I'm sure we do not/would not appreciate not being able to complete our work in a timely manner because we had to constantly keep stopping so that others could do something - like you can't type on the computer when your office mates are on a conference call).
I know a guy who worked on grounds crew at an upscale country club in the area. He said during the week they primarily did maintenance work before club opened for play or in late evening when golfers were gone, but they also had policy that if they saw golfers coming they were to move themselves and equipment into trees/bushes and basically hide until the golfers were gone - the super had told them to make sure the golfers couldn't even tell they were there. Most of the time it wasn't a big deal because course was not really busy, but there were days they would end up on the clock until late at night because they had to keep stopping every 5 minutes. |
While I do appreciate what they do, as far as the late hours at times all I can say is... suck it up. If the hours bother you, there are plenty of other jobs out there Nobody is forcing you to work there!
Anyway, yeah... I dont mind if they continue cutting the grass or whatever, as long as they stop if they are right in my path or like... RIGHT behind me. But the sand on the green was a bit much. It was like putting in a bunker on every single hole.  |
You know....just thought I'd mention that I learned how to golf on a course with sand greens. Yes, the "greens" were actually made of fine sand. When you got to the "green", you got to pick up your ball and smooth the area around the ball and between the ball and the hole. After putting out, you got to smooth out all of the footprints and ball marks on the "green". Such practices easily added an hour to a nine hole round. |
WTF?
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Bryan K
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Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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Here is a little bit of info about sand greens. The course I learned on was a little nine hole deal in New Salem, ND. The course was built on the slope of Schoolboy Hill, the home of Salem Sue (the big cow you can see from I-94).
http://www.puttingzone.com/sandgreens.html
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