I logged a score today and I blew up pretty bad on a couple of holes and scored a 9 on the first hole and 9th hole today, both par 4s. ESC knocked them down to 8s but my course handicap of 25 was subtracted from my gross 89 not corrected for ESC 87 for a net 64 on a par 62. Is that a bug or do I misunderstand how ESC works?

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George crawford wrote:

]I logged a score today and I blew up pretty bad on a couple of holes and scored a 9 on the first hole and 9th hole today, both par 4s. ESC knocked them down to 8s but my course handicap of 25 was subtracted from my gross 89 not corrected for ESC 87 for a net 64 on a par 62. Is that a bug or do I misunderstand how ESC works?[

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Yes, you are misunderstanding the purpose of ESC. It's not to give you a score you didn't shoot (gross or net), it's to prevent your handicap from getting too inflated because of these blow-up holes. If there wasn't ESC in play, it would be really easy to get oneself a high(er) handicap and therefore get more net strokes in []future[] rounds, in competition, either official or with one's buddies.

But, what you shoot is what you shoot for your scorecard of the day, both gross and net (after subtracting your current course handicap).

So ESC I'd just used in calculating the differential? I've seen more than one person pick up at 8 on a hole because they said they can't score more than an 8 due to their handicap.

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George crawford wrote:

]So ESC I'd just used in calculating the differential? I've seen more than one person pick up at 8 on a hole because they said they can't score more than an 8 due to their handicap.[

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Correct.ESC prevents a high hole score from counting towards your handicap.Since this is automatically factored in,you should play out every hole.

I think your raw score still counts for scoring avg though.

I've had a similar question when it comes to entering scores for handicap purposes. While I'm not a member of club to get an official handicap index, I do keep track here (of course!).

I briefly looked at joing the RCGA (Royal Canadian GOlf Assoc.) and it indicated that when entering scores for handicap purposes, that the adjusted gross score (i.e., score after ESC is applied) should be entered. Would this mean that ESC is not automatically used by the RCGA when entering scores and calculating indices? I find that really strange, since I'm not always aware of the course handicap, and what my limit of strokes/score per hole.

I've also posted my actual score on the hole here at Oobgolf, thinking that ESC will take care of the handicapping index calculation and that the average score will be my []actual[] average score. So, I'm glad that it seems consistent with what others believe and/or are doing.

Armand

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George crawford wrote:

]]]]]So ESC I'd just used in calculating the differential? I've seen more than one person pick up at 8 on a hole because they said they can't score more than an 8 due to their handicap.[[[

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In a casual round, lot of people pick up to speed up pace of play. But if you are in a tournament or playing side bets, you count every stroke.... no picking up. On my home course, if I get a 10 on a par 5, my gross score is a 10, my net score is a 9 and what I post (ESC) for HDCP calculations is a 7.

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Armand Eglauer wrote:

]I've had a similar question when it comes to entering scores for handicap purposes. While I'm not a member of club to get an official handicap index, I do keep track here (of course!). I briefly looked at joing the RCGA (Royal Canadian GOlf Assoc.) and it indicated that when entering scores for handicap purposes, that the adjusted gross score (i.e., score after ESC is applied) should be entered. Would this mean that ESC is not automatically used by the RCGA when entering scores and calculating indices? I find that really strange, since I'm not always aware of the course handicap, and what my limit of strokes/score per hole. I've also posted my actual score on the hole here at Oobgolf, thinking that ESC will take care of the handicapping index calculation and that the average score will be my [[[]]]actual[[[]]] average score. So, I'm glad that it seems consistent with what others believe and/or are doing. Armand[

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I am not familiar with the RCGA rules and procedures, but if they are anything like the USGA, what is meant by that is that if you post using the terminals provided at the course, you have to keep track of the ESC score yourself since you are only posting the total, not the hole-by-hole scores. It is impossible for the computer to know what ESC adjustment to apply, if any, on a total aggregate score. However, if your system allows posting hole-by-hole scoring, it will apply ESC appropriately.

As for figuring out your course handicap, you need to know your index and the course slope. There are charts posted at the course usually, there is a course handicap calculator on this site (oobgolf) when viewing the course scorecard, and I am sure the RCGA has a calculator as well. Look it up before your round, and then you know how to apply ESC