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Duke of Hazards
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:40 pm Post subject: Playing course out of order... skip ahead/return |
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Yesterday, I played 18 with another single that was riding in a cart. Play started to slow down towards the end of the front 9 and we ended up skipping the first 4 holes of the back 9 to hole 14, where it was wide open. We came back and finished 10-13 later after it had cleared out (it was a twilight round).
Anyone else done or considered this?
Obviously, it's a lot easier to do if you're riding and if you know the course layout well, but we ended up finishing the round in 3:40 and didn't have to wait between shots like we would've if we'd been logjammed behind a bunch of slow groups.
I wouldn't think this to be an issue with course management if you've paid for 18 holes of golf and not stepping on anyone's toes?
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joe jones
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:11 pm Post subject: Playing out of order |
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Years ago , and after finishing a outing, some of my buddies and I, after more than a few beers we would go back on the course for what we referred to a ramble round. The idea was to make up our own holes. Play from a regular tee backwoods to a wrong green. Play across lakes to a hole on the back nine. Sometimes we would play 2 or three holes as one and play it as a par 12 - 890 yards long.Any stupid hole we could dream up was the challenge. Of course a lot of money was involved and the drinking continued while we were playing .By the time we were through it would be getting pretty dark but we didn't care. All of this was done with the permission of a very forgiving pro shop. We would all chip in and give a very big tip to any employees that hung around such as cart people etc.. A lot of amazing good and bad shots were part of the fun.
Sorry for the rambling on.
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legitimatebeef
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:50 pm Post subject: Re: Playing out of order |
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I do it all the time to get around slow players and what not. At my home course I've played too many different permutations to remember.
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]Years ago , and after finishing a outing, some of my buddies and I, after more than a few beers we would go back on the course for what we referred to a ramble round. The idea was to make up our own holes. Play from a regular tee backwoods to a wrong green. Play across lakes to a hole on the back nine. Sometimes we would play 2 or three holes as one and play it as a par 12 - 890 yards long.Any stupid hole we could dream up was the challenge. Of course a lot of money was involved and the drinking continued while we were playing .By the time we were through it would be getting pretty dark but we didn't care. All of this was done with the permission of a very forgiving pro shop. We would all chip in and give a very big tip to any employees that hung around such as cart people etc.. A lot of amazing good and bad shots were part of the fun.
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Par 12 and such is a great idea. Just like distance running has ultra-marathons, I'd like to see something like ultra golf with super long distances.
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Duke of Hazards
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:56 pm Post subject: Re: Playing out of order |
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| ]]]]]I do it all the time to get around slow players and what not. At my home course I've played too many different permutations to remember.[[[ |
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Don't know why this never occurred to me before. I guess I'll have to start picking up a paper scorecard a the pro shop for layout purposes on unfamiliar courses.
Any specific strategies or tips?
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bkuehn1952
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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Skipping holes and coming back later is a technique my regular group often uses at twilight. We play pretty quickly and it is the rare group that will catch up to us.
Our rules are to never jump in front of a group:
1. unless they are at least a hole away (e.g. the group is teeing off on #12 as we tee off on #13) and
2. there are several open holes in front of us.
We do not want anyone to ever wait on us.
I have seen many people attempt to jump only to end up holding up the following group. That is when tempers start to flare. Better to wait your turn than to risk a confrontation by jumping too close to another group.
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Duke of Hazards
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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joe jones
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:57 pm Post subject: Par 12 |
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Willy Nelson owned his own private course and he said he had a par 12 hole on it. He said he birdied it almost every day. Didn't say how long it was.
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DougE
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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]Skipping holes and coming back later is a technique my regular group often uses at twilight. We play pretty quickly and it is the rare group that will catch up to us.
Our rules are to never jump in front of a group:
1. unless they are at least a hole away (e.g. the group is teeing off on #12 as we tee off on #13) and
2. there are several open holes in front of us.
We do not want anyone to ever wait on us.
I have seen many people attempt to jump only to end up holding up the following group. That is when tempers start to flare. Better to wait your turn than to risk a confrontation by jumping too close to another group.[ |
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At my regular course, I skip all over the place almost all the rounds I play after 3 or 4 in the afternoon, which are many. It is a common practice among the members. I can play 18 in anywhere between 2 hours 15 minutes and 3 hours, hardly ever any longer. As long as I am single or playing in a twosome. I agree with everything you mentioned above. We NEVER get in a position where we will get in front of a group and then hold them up. If it seems that will be the case, we will skip off to another open hole.
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Duke of Hazards
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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wow, I didn't know this practice was so common. i feel like a bit of a dummy for not thinking of it before
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Bryan K
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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Just to chime in...I abhor this practice unless the course is completely empty. I nearly killed someone last summer who had jumped ahead of me by a couple of holes. He ran into a slow group, and since I didn't know he was in fromt of me and that group, I nearly took off his head with a drive.
If anyone ever does this in front of me, even if it is by a couple of holes, I will call and report him/her to the ranger.
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CeeBee
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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I jump around all the time twilite and will never hold anyone up. Lots of walkers and couples trying to get in 9. That's OK but I'm on the move.
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DougE
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:39 am Post subject: |
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If anyone ever does this in front of me, even if it is by a couple of holes, I will call and report him/her to the ranger.[ |
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When there is room all over the course, our rangers encourage us to "go where they ain't."
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birdieXris
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:21 am Post subject: |
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]Just to chime in...I abhor this practice unless the course is completely empty. I nearly killed someone last summer who had jumped ahead of me by a couple of holes. He ran into a slow group, and since I didn't know he was in fromt of me and that group, I nearly took off his head with a drive.
If anyone ever does this in front of me, even if it is by a couple of holes, I will call and report him/her to the ranger.[ |
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I'm in the same boat. Generally though, i don't mind if i don't run into the person at all. If you wanna hop ahead because there's empty holes, you go right ahead, but i know who is in front of me at all times and where they are on the course (or where they SHOULD be) so be prepared for either me or a ranger to ask to see your tee slip if you're holding me up. I did it a couple times last year and A guy my dad was playing with nearly beat the piss out of a man for doing it. that was on a packed course though and someone like that needs a beating every now and then.
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Dusty23
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:00 am Post subject: |
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We have this guy who usually goes out as a single or a twosome, we call him Hole Jumper. This guy doesn't hold up play, thats not the problem. We know for a fact that this guy doesn't rake his traps or fix a ball mark and its the way he jumps ahead thats laughable. One Sunday we were the first group on the course, teed off on one, I'm standing in the fairway lining up my shot and I look up and there's Hole Jumper driving down the first fairway to the second teebox. This guy can't be the second group on the course and you can't go to three to put a hole between us! Then all day we're coming up on fresh ballmarks and unraked traps. We've reported him to no avail, he has green money so the course isn't going to say anything. We made some comments with him within earshot, he heard us. still no change. Now any unraked bunkers or ballmarks we blame on him. He's become a joke.
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George crawford
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:43 am Post subject: |
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Did this on Monday at a local course, I was a single and there was a foursome in front of me moving at a good pace but by the 4th hole we got backed up with 3 groups ahead I jumped to the 8th hole. I caught another group on the 13th hole so I went back to the 4th and it was all clear. Did a little more jumping around and the end. When I left the group I was behind originally was around the 14th.
I play alone a lot so often end up leap frogging. I also try not to jump in where I'll end up making someone wait for their tee shot.
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